Remember, it’s about the warming

Takes a while to melt this baby.

Not about climate change

We’re not afraid of climate change. Since pre-humans started making tools over 2 million years ago we’ve been dealing with climate change and it has never destroyed us.

Let’s be honest: we’re afraid of dangerous anthropogenic global warming (DAGW). It’s a long name, with a hard word in the middle, but that’s what we’re afraid of. Not climate change.

Use “man-made” sometimes, if you like, but always mention “dangerous” because if it’s not dangerous we don’t need to do anything about it.

Its name is DAGW, SO USE IT!

Peter Williams, in his exasperation with the whole climate “emergency”, highlights an interesting feature of the current propaganda. – h/t Muriel Newman

I’m sorry but my head hurts. I am so over the nonsense that is being propagated by politicians and policymakers about this thing that is now just referred to as ‘climate change’. Every day it is being foisted upon us. The world is in crisis. There is going to be a disaster, a catastrophe. The world is going to end. We have 12 years. We have 10 years. Prince Charles says we have 18 months left before it is irreversible and the world will end.

I hadn’t seen it like this, Peter, so thank you for stating it so simply. He’s right, and we’d do well to remind ourselves that it never stopped being about the warming. Too many warmsters talk about global weirding, pollution, greed, selfishness, climate justice and other things just to put us off the scent. Stand up to them.

The thing about the DAGW scare is that if there’s no warming, we’re not doing it. If you can see the phenomenon being described is not caused by warming, or has no connection with our emissions or any trivial warming they cause, then humans aren’t causing it.

The National Geographic (so wonderful once) ran this ridiculously fact-free story about sea level rise last January. (Have a glance; if you can detect a clear assertion that our emissions are causing sea level rise, and how, let me know.)

The reporter,

The change in sea levels is linked to three primary factors, all induced by ongoing global climate change

NOTE: Not linked to DAGW.

When water heats up, it expands. About half of the sea-level rise over the past 25 years is attributable to warmer oceans simply occupying more space.

NOTE: Not linked to DAGW. The sea is heated every day by the sun.

Recently, though, persistently higher temperatures caused by global warming have led to greater-than-average summer melting as well as diminished snowfall due to later winters and earlier springs. That creates an imbalance between runoff and ocean evaporation, causing sea levels to rise.

NOTE: Recent temperatures, slightly higher than 20 years ago, were caused by the latest El Nino, not climate change, and could not melt massive ice sheets already many degrees below zero; ocean evaporation leads to rainfall (that’s how we get rain!) and the net effect on sea level is zilch; idiots. Not linked to DAGW.

The single factor by which we are said to cause dangerous global warming is warming caused by our emissions. But there is no description of a mechanism by which warming from our emissions can significantly warm the ocean—ipso facto, we’re not causing sea level rise.

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11 Thoughts on “Remember, it’s about the warming

  1. Simon on 27/07/2019 at 1:34 pm said:

    Dangerous global warming has been defined as 1.5°C or 2°C above pre-industrial levels depending upon who you talk to. 1.5°C gives us a carbon budget of about 18 years at current greenhouse gas emission levels. The sooner we start, the slower the future reductions need to be.
    Multiple metres of sea level rise is already locked in, fortunately this will take centuries. We need to start managing an orderly retreat. Sea level rise is non-linear depending upon how quickly the ice shelves melt.

  2. Richard Treadgold on 27/07/2019 at 1:42 pm said:

    Defined, Simon? By whom?

  3. Simon on 27/07/2019 at 4:22 pm said:

    All signatories (i.e. every country in the world) to the Paris Agreement agreed that it was necessary to restrict the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and pursuing efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels.

  4. Richard Treadgold on 27/07/2019 at 4:27 pm said:

    Right, Simon. That does not mean that “Dangerous global warming has been defined as 1.5°C or 2°C above pre-industrial levels,” wouldn’t you agree? It also means that it’s a political and not a scientific decision. Nothing to do with science.

  5. Simon on 27/07/2019 at 10:52 pm said:

    Of course, ‘danger’ is a value judgement; it’s qualitative not quantitative. Decisions about acceptable risk have to be made by society through the political system. Every country signed the Paris Agreement because the risks associated with 2 °C are considered to be unacceptable.

  6. Alexander K on 29/07/2019 at 4:40 pm said:

    When I was fourteen, my science teacher told us that one coastline of NZ was sinking and the opposite coastline was rising, both at an equal but incredibly slow rate. Just last evening, TV1 News reported that at I y community on the East coast of the North Island is sinking and will have to be evacuated soon. Not a word about Tectonic Plate shift or any other known factor, Globull Warming is the sole cause of ongoing geographic change.
    I no longer shout at the TV but what can one do to counter the almost constant barrage of nonsense which is
    Promulgated by our State broadcaster,

  7. Richard Treadgold on 29/07/2019 at 5:01 pm said:

    Hi Alexander,

    I know what you mean—we’re living in crazy times. I suggest you’re doing the right thing by commenting here. Dare I suggest this is the premier sceptical climate blog in the country? Hundreds of people visit here every day, from around the world. In the last 15 months, there have been over 670,000 visits from 340,000 people. So we’re getting through to a goodly number. Keep those comments rolling in.

  8. Alexander K on 30/07/2019 at 1:37 pm said:

    Thanks for the encouraging news re volume of international readers, Richard.

    I should have mentioned that my Science teacher delivered his lecture about Tectonic plates circa 1954 when Tectonic Plate theory was still relatively new science and argued against by many. Now it seems that the Tectonic plates of the earth’s crust wandered all over the shop and we never question that fact now.

    I was once an agricultural worker and I appreciate the sheer slog that many cockies put in to stay viable financially and take a very dim view of politicians with no awareness of either science or the industry who are attempting to shut it down, just as our PM shut down the future of hydrocarbon exploration in Taranaki.

  9. Richard Treadgold on 30/07/2019 at 1:44 pm said:


    You are completely without error. Also, thanks for the stories! Keep them coming—you always seem to relate them to the topic, so no problem, mate.

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