We won’t be dissuaded from our global goal

No global warming for 16 years — hardly significant

Delegates to the United Nations, naturally, are well informed in their chosen field, right?

Wrong. Listen to these ones.

Far from having nothing to worry about because the world is in good hands, Kiwis have everything to worry about because chumps and cretins are now permitted to wander the corridors of power.

What will you do about it?

21 Thoughts on “We won’t be dissuaded from our global goal

  1. Andy on June 7, 2013 at 12:02 pm said:

    The lack of knowledge that these people show is astonishing

  2. Andy on June 7, 2013 at 12:22 pm said:

    Just watched a few minutes of Green party conference on climate change streaming here

    http://new.livestream.com/nzgreens/events/2154111

    Very tedious. I don’t recommend it.

    The slide I saw had written on it:

    “Regardless of mitigation efforts, we are committed to climate changes and damaging impacts”

    Cool, so what is the point then?

  3. Mike Jowsey on June 7, 2013 at 2:51 pm said:

    AAAAArrrgghhhh!!! My brain just exploded. It only took 2min 17sec to completely discombobulate.

  4. Thomas on June 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm said:

    “chumps and cretins are now permitted to wander the corridors of power….” (Richard T)

    Wow Richard, what do you think YOU should be called? Perhaps a kettle trying to call the pot black? That would be rather mild don’t you think.

    This is truly risible language Richard. Especially as its you and your disciples here with your ‘astonishing’ arsenal of ‘insights’ who are utterly wrong about pretty much everything but too deeply in Danning Kruger land to ever know….

    Just look at this graph AGAIN: http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/heat_content2000m.png

    And this one: Woodfortrees…

    …. and then tell me who are the ‘chumps’ and who are the ‘cretins’???

    The real chumps and cretins (you started it Richard, I am merely lowering my standard to that of your risible little blog) are the same old same old right wing nutters behind CFACT and those who regurgitate their publications.

    CFACT quote: “In short, as science becomes more advanced it seems that the one thing is clear: While ice caps may be growing, and coral reefs are remaining resilient, the one thing that is dwindling for sure is the case for global warming.
    Source: Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow CFACT Website 5/03

    What a load of tosh indeed!

  5. Calm down, Thomas. It’s nothing to do with CFACT, my comments are a response to the subjects being interviewed here. I recommend you view the video. They know nothing, yet they’re attending a UN conference on that very subject. Those people impress me with no confidence whatsoever. I don’t know why you point again at OHC; I notice that the air temp graphs you point to show the very stasis I refer to.

  6. Andy on June 7, 2013 at 4:49 pm said:

    I quite liked the one where CFACT got the delegates at Dofa to put on carbon sequestration masks on their faces

    I think most of them either had a very dead-pan delivery or thought it was serious

    .. and then there was the dihydrogen monoxide scare….

  7. Richard C (NZ) on June 7, 2013 at 5:00 pm said:

    >”Just look at this graph AGAIN:”

    And just look at it’s AGW irrelevancy AGAIN:

    https://www.climateconversation.org.nz/2013/05/measure-for-measures-are-better/#comment-207320

  8. Richard C (NZ) on June 7, 2013 at 5:03 pm said:

    .. and then there was the dihydrogen monoxide scare….

    Petition to ban it. Forget how many signatures they got.

  9. Bob D on June 7, 2013 at 5:08 pm said:

    Agreed. Also here.

  10. Thomas on June 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm said:

    Sorry Bob, you are simply in denial. The ocean heat content – in total – has increased steeply and steadily and especially so over the last 15 years!

    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/heat_content2000m.png

    If it had been just a re-mixing of energy from the top to the bottom, the heat content overall would have been constant.

    What you simply do not understand: The propagation of heat energy to the deeper ocean should go along with a cooling of the top, IF there was no further heat added at the surface. That’s what heat equalization over time does: A cooling of the hotter parts and a warming of the colder parts.

    However even though heat was exchanged with the deeper layers, the top layers continued to warm: http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/heat_content55-07.png

    Overall the trend is clear and no matter how you try to twist it, the heat content of planet Earth has been rising steadily and especially so over the last 15 years.
    CFACT is totally out of line with their assertion and the people on the movie reacting astonished to the assertion that global warming ‘had stopped’ were indeed puzzled by having a blatant un-truth (better called lie) being presented to them as ‘fact’ by C-fact……

  11. Alexander K on June 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm said:

    I gave up smoking about 8 years ago, but if I could find some of what you have been smoking, Thomas, I might be tempted to start again!
    On second thoughts, I like my reality straight.
    🙂 Sarc

  12. Thomas on June 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm said:

    I viewed the video. Now how many subjects do you think did your chums at CFACT interview and how many of these interviews do you think they had to throw away as the subjects would have been possibly quite eloquent in telling the CFACT guy to shove his lie (that GW had stopped) up where it hurts.
    BTW I hope that somebody tells the CFACT chum that notoriety for the wrong reason is bad for business. Just look at how Heartland imploded after their Una-Bomber campaign!
    Well, good taste was never peered with a lack of intellect and integrity…
    http://climatecrocks.com/2013/03/28/yet-another-billboard-campaign/

    BTW CFACT says on their website: that they have been “lauded for its “effort to bring sound science to the environmental debate” by a former president of the National Academy of Sciences. They never say who that president of the NAS was!

    Hmm, Frederic Seitz comes to mind, the very character who corrupted science by accepting millions of the tobacco companies for providing ‘doubt’ about the connection of smoking and lung cancer…..

    You walk in the company of giants Richard…. but sorry to say, they all look much like mountain trolls really…..

  13. Alexander K on June 7, 2013 at 6:02 pm said:

    Now I have stopped laughing and cleaned the coffee splatters from my monitor, I re-read Thomas’s comment; his notions about heat transfer through water remind me of some of the mad conversations I used to have many years ago, during my short time as a Primary school teacher, with bright children who had got hold of weird ideas . I found that arguing with them was pointless as they were not mature enough to know enough about anything to reach a reasoned and fact-based conclusion.
    More experienced colleagues counselled me at that time that the kids would eventually grow up.

  14. Bob D on June 7, 2013 at 6:54 pm said:

    🙂

  15. Bob D on June 7, 2013 at 6:55 pm said:

    OK, I officially give up.

    “There’s none as thick as them that wants to be”, as my grandmother used to say.

  16. Richard C (NZ) on June 7, 2013 at 7:47 pm said:

    >”However even though heat was exchanged with the deeper layers, the top layers continued to warm:”

    You have to one of the most besotted warmists around Thomas, but one last try:

    Ocean Basin Trend Comparison 0-700m, North Atlantic, South Atlantic, Indian, North Pacific, South Pacific, 1Q2003 – 2Q2011

    http://i56.tinypic.com/2llhpva.jpg

    AGW AWOL (negative trends i.e. cooling) from 3 of 5.

  17. Your decision is deeply deprecated by me! You’ve been fascinating, and I’ve learned so much. You’ve done a lot of research in the background, thanks!

  18. But your own reference shows the stasis, Thomas. When the very facts you yourself present to us fail to persuade you, it’s little wonder our qualified members give up on you. I hope you learn to be content in your little green paddock as you graze among your familiar old beliefs.

    Goodbye.

  19. Richard C (NZ) on June 7, 2013 at 8:09 pm said:

    >”Just look at how Heartland imploded after their Una-Bomber campaign!”

    I looked but I don’t see any implosion: http://heartland.org/

    * Budget
    * Education
    * Environment
    * FIRE
    * Health Care
    * Legal
    * Telecom

    Center on Climate and Environmental Policy – Last updates 6 June 2013

    http://heartland.org/issues/environment

    ‘Cooling Looms as Earth’s True Climate Calamity’
    Jay Lehr, Ph.D. – June 5, 2013

    “Scientists from Pulkovo Observatory in St. Petersburg, Russia, stated in the Voice of Russia on April 22, that solar activity is waning to such an extent that the global average yearly temperature will soon begin to decline.

    Now, there is no reason to believe there will be any warming during the remainder of this century, says Vladimir Kotlyakov, head of the Institute of Geography at the Russian Academy of Science, speaking with Vladimir Radyuhin for the Hindu newspaper on April 22, 2013. In the same article, Dr. Yuri Nagovitsyn, academic secretary of the Pulkovo Observatory, is quoted as saying coming generations will have to grapple with temperatures several degrees lower than those today.

    On Jan. 8, on NASA’s Science News website, Tony Phillips cited Matt Penn and William Livingston of the National Solar Observatory as noting we are now in the final stages of Solar Cycle 24, which has been “the weakest in more than 50 years.” By the time Solar Cycle 25 arrives shortly, they predict, “magnetic fields on the sun will be so weak that few if any sunspots will be formed,” Phillips wrote.

    The effects of this weak solar activity have been notable. The United Kingdom just suffered through a winter with temperatures 5 to 10 degrees Celsius below normal, and German meteorologists report 2013 has been the coldest year in 208 years. Writing April 27 in England’s Sunday Telegraph, Christopher Booker noted 3,318 places in the United States that had recorded their lowest temperatures for that time of year since records began. Similar records were set in every province of Canada, and the Russian winter has seen its deepest snowfall in 134 years.

    Anthony Watts, at his Watts Up With That blog, shows that, in this century, average U.S. winter temperatures have dropped by 1.45 degrees C, more than twice as much as their rise from 1850-1999 and twice as much as the net rise in the 20th century.

    This cooling has come as a big surprise to many. All of mankind’s new carbon dioxide emissions were supposed to make things too warm, with climate models indicating the world would heat up by 0.3 degrees C every decade. ”

    http://news.heartland.org/editorial/2013/06/05/cooling-looms-earths-true-climate-calamity

    ICCC – 8: http://climateconferences.heartland.org/iccc-8/

    Still going strong.

    BTW, “This cooling has come as a big surprise to many” has yet to apply to you – so ignore that bit Thomas.

  20. Richard C (NZ) on June 7, 2013 at 8:42 pm said:

    >”….solar activity is waning to such an extent that the global average yearly temperature will soon begin to decline”

    Like this already:

    ‘The Unequivocal Collapse of The Global Warming Trend’

    “Despite the highest CO2 growth trend, global cooling prevails”

    http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c01910304e3f6970c-pi

    From:

    ‘The Continuing Collapse of Both The Anti-Science CO2/AGW Theory & The “Unequivocal” Global Warming Trend’

    http://www.c3headlines.com/2013/06/continuing-collapse-anti-scienceof-the-anti-science-co2-agw-theory-unequivocal-global-cooling-warming-trend.html

  21. Richard C (NZ) on June 7, 2013 at 9:56 pm said:

    CFACT – ‘UN press conference: Acknowledge temperature standstill & abandon bias’

    Craig Rucker – “Sadly, to attend a UN climate conference, is to enter an unrealistic wonderland”

    Let me give an overview one at a time:

    1. Temperature flat-line
    2. Climate computer models vs. reality
    3. Extreme weather is natural
    4. Unsettled science
    5. False solutions, waste, fraud and abuse

    In summary, with temperatures at a standstill, science unsettled, and global warming waste, fraud and abuse rampant, it is incumbent on the nations of the world to reassess and radically readjust the climate process.

    >>>>> http://www.cfact.org/2013/06/05/17325/

    And the CFACT billboard of course:

    http://www.cfact.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sliderBillboard16yearsgraph.jpg

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