19 Thoughts on “Holiday time

  1. Andy on 14/01/2011 at 2:45 pm said:

    The daily bayonet’s weekly roundup of Global Warming news


  2. Richard C (NZ) on 14/01/2011 at 7:06 pm said:

    Trenberth is digging his hole even deeper. I was of a mind that he might be the first of The Team to see sense – nope.

    “Given that global warming is “unequivocal”, to quote the 2007 IPCC report, the null hypothesis should now be reversed, thereby placing the burden of proof on showing that there is no human influence.”


  3. Andy on 15/01/2011 at 12:23 pm said:

    Brenan O’Neill of Spiked Online writes a piece on the Brisbane floods:

    Did Australia’s obsession with global warming contribute to the Brisbane floods?


    In the spirit of the thread, here is some holiday reading by the same man reviewing one of James Delingpole’s books

    How to be a ‘hippy fascist’
    James Delingpole, author of an ‘essential guide to making lefty liberals history’, talks to spiked’s editor about ‘posho greens’, Glastonbury and his fear of revolution.
    by Brendan O’Neill


    • Richard C (NZ) on 15/01/2011 at 2:24 pm said:

      There’s been some brainless actions as a result of the drought fixation. Building houses with slab foundations on a flood plain is asking for trouble. Not for nothing is a traditional Queenslander house up on stilts. For the Wivenhoe dam (dual purpose – water supplyflood mitigation) controllers to leave the dam near full on the Friday then just go home for the weekend only to come back on Monday and open the gates on top of the flood is negligent. I’ll be surprised if there’s not class actions at least.

      TV1 ran a piece on the Queensland floods featuring Prof Manning, Victoria University’s Director of Climate Change Research.


      “The warming of the whole planet is putting more water vapour into the atmosphere, so when these events occur now, we do expect more rain may well be coming out because of global warming,” Manning said.

      “Climate change is a lot more than changing the average temperature. It’s actually pushing into new weather patterns and they do consistently come up as more extreme, both directions, both wetter and drier.”

      I wonder what he attributes the 1974 and 1917 floods to?

      Also Neville Nicholls of Monash University in Melbourne and president of the Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society.

      “It’s a natural phenomena. We have no strong reason at the moment for saying this La Nina is any stronger than it would be even without humans,” said Neville Nicholls of Monash University in Melbourne and president of the Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society.

      But he said global atmospheric warming of about 0.75C over the past half century had to be having some impact.

      But the 0.6C drop in Australian temperatures over the past year is to be omitted from consideration,

      And Trenberth

      He said a portion, about 0.5C, of the ocean temperatures around northern Australia, which are more than 1.5C above pre-1970 levels, could be attributed to global warming.

      The anomaly shows not much at +1.5C around northern Australia but look on the other side of New Guinea and there’s a whole lot at -2.5C. Does he attribute the cooler water to global warming too?


      These phonies make it up as they go along.

    • Andy on 17/01/2011 at 7:32 am said:

      Things are looking pretty bad for the Queensland Govt, if you believe this report from Richard North


    • Richard C (NZ) on 17/01/2011 at 9:40 am said:

      Yet the policy of the Queensland Government was to keep the dams full because of their advice from the likes of Tim Flannery et al. This was that, because of global warming, Queensland was going to remain in drought.

      Tim Flannery was Australian of the Year, 2007 and “et al” includes CSIRO and BOM but not Prof Manning because he is in a different camp that espouses – “we do expect more rain may well be coming out because of global warming”.

      So there’s two camps: “et al” and “we”. The “we” camp has found full voice after a strange affliction that allowed them to pronounce “drought” but not “rain”. It’s good to see that the “we” folks have had their full vocal range restored – it must be one of the amazing healing properties of water. Just a pity their semi-mute period cost Queensland and Victoria a desalination plant each, although I see Queensland has quietly mothballed plans for theirs.

    • Richard C (NZ) on 17/01/2011 at 10:26 am said:

      NZ Herald has consulted the “Experts”

      “La Nina, global warming to blame for floods”


      “Experts blame a combination of a La Nina weather pattern and global warming for the magnitude of the Queensland flood disaster.”

      Search on the internet for – Queensland flood history

      Second item on the first page returned is this BOM page


      * Queensland Flood History :
      Pre-1860’s 1860’s 1870’s 1880’s 1890’s
      1900’s 1910’s 1920’s 1930’s 1940’s 1950’s 1960’s 1970’s 1980’s 1990’s
      2000’s 2010’s

      Click on “1910’s” for a sample.


      Not as if high “magnitude” floods are a new phenomenon.

  4. Andy on 16/01/2011 at 7:26 pm said:

    Nice bit of holiday money for Nicholas Stern, 400,000 Euro to be precise
    ($700,000 NZD)


    Amazing that this award comes from Spain, a country that has suffered as a result of green energy policies.

    • Richard C (NZ) on 17/01/2011 at 8:34 am said:

      “Climate change economics is the next industrial revolution” – yep, right after climate change advocacy, climate change bureaucracy, climate change [insert rort here].

      Certainly paying handsomely for one economist at least.

      If Stern thinks Spain has “woken up to the benefits” then either: Stern is dreaming, Spain is extremely deluded or “benefits” has a new definition.

      Given the source of the award, “Spain is extremely deluded” seems to be the best assessment. I’m discounting “Stern is dreaming” because I think he knows exactly where his bread gets buttered and I haven’t heard that “benefits” has been redefined, although that is not out of the question.

    • Richard C (NZ) on 17/01/2011 at 2:16 pm said:

      “Stern at the frontiers of knowledge” according to Bryan Walker.

      Self imposed frontiers, but frontiers nonetheless.

  5. Andy on 17/01/2011 at 4:17 pm said:

    BBC’s bias on Global Warming


    Links to YouTube video

    Worth a watch, especially for newbees

    • Andy on 17/01/2011 at 4:28 pm said:

      and it’s worth watching the full video. The sting is in the tail.

  6. Andy on 17/01/2011 at 9:48 pm said:

    This comment on Judith Curry’s blog is worth a read:
    (linked from CA)


    I worked at Goddard for most of 42 years – with the atmospheric scientists. And I talked to them. One talks about a lot of different subjects while waiting through a spacecraft thermal-vac test or waiting for a spaceraft science data dump or working through science instrument schedules or problems or waiting for a design meeting to start or over lunch at a conference. And one of those subjects was global warming. And the opinion of nearly all of those atmospheric scientists was that the theory was flawed and the data did not support it to any great degree. But they dared not express those opinions officially or publish anything of the sort if they wanted to keep their jobs and careers. “Grand conspiracy”? No – just “sit down and shut up and don’t rock the boat or we’ll throw you out to drown on your own”.

  7. (not so) Silent on 18/01/2011 at 4:24 pm said:


    “No – just “sit down and shut up”

    Yes, well, watch this……

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