Green Utopia

 

Ten years ago, Tom Scott captured this vision of the consequences of Left-Green tyranny. Today, they continue on that backward-looking path, abetted by a compliant Labour Party through an electoral accident that Winston Peters exploited to circumvent the democratic vote and put the Greens and Labour into the same bed. What a pity Peters wasn’t thinking of the national good.

They banned oil exploration, but why? Was it because of global warming? Well, since it hasn’t been warming, what would you say? I say it’s because oil riches threaten us with extraordinary prosperity—which means freedom for everyone. But they don’t trust us with freedom. National does.

PS: The likeness of the ploughwoman to our Helen is astounding.

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22 Thoughts on “Green Utopia

  1. Simon on April 17, 2018 at 6:14 am said:

    The climate is warming. You know this. Why continue the deceit?

  2. Stephanie Hawking on April 17, 2018 at 8:33 am said:

    http://www.jamespowell.org

    For 2013 and 2014, I found that only 5 of 24,210 articles and 4 of 69,406 authors rejected anthropogenic global warming, showing that the consensus on AGW is above 99.9% and likely verges on unanimity.

    Climate science denial is a cult.

  3. Richard Treadgold on April 17, 2018 at 8:35 am said:

    Simon,

    There’s more deceit in claiming warming, when it’s been practically at a standstill over the last couple of decades. It’s a far cry from the nightmare scenarios you’ve been painting. Or produce evidence of warming — or have I asked for evidence previously?

  4. Stephanie Hawking on April 17, 2018 at 8:51 am said:

    Richard Treadgold

    UAH. Seriously?

    You’re full of it.

  5. Richard Treadgold on April 17, 2018 at 9:38 am said:

    I’ll answer Stephanie’s misleading reference for the sake of our glorious bystanders.

    For 2013 and 2014, I found that only 5 of 24,210 articles and 4 of 69,406 authors rejected anthropogenic global warming, showing that the consensus on AGW is above 99.9% and likely verges on unanimity. – The Consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming Matters, by JL Powell, 2017.

    The absurd logic of this dishonest paper is unravelled by no less than a hero of the warmster campaign at Skeptical Science in a post by Andy Skuce (a co-author of Cook’s infamous “97% consensus” paper). His opening paragraph goes for the jugular:

    Alternative methods, such as James Powell’s, that identify only explicit rejections of AGW and assume that all other instances are endorsements, miss many implicit rejections and overestimate the consensus. -emphasis added

    I would go further and say nobody reasons like this but frauds and money launderers, and establishment scientists who calmly cite it as support for their cause do so either in complete ignorance because they’ve not read the paper or with culpable complicity in the paper’s lies because they have read it. But Skuce’s first sentence, affirming the legitimacy of Cook et al.’s discredited 97% consensus, is a military-grade coverup of a brazenly fraudulent paper:

    The 97% consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) reported by Cook et al. (2013) is a robust estimate.

    Really? Cook’s oily little study examined 11,944 abstracts and reported that 97.1% of them agreed with the consensus on man-made global warming. However, examination of Cook’s data by Andrew Montford suggested (it was hard to be certain) that only about 41 of those abstracts actually agreed with the consensus. That’s 0.3%.

  6. Simon on April 17, 2018 at 1:41 pm said:

    There is a clear upward trend in the UAH chart that you linked to. Note also that UAH is a radiance proxy of the lower troposphere which is not the same thing as surface temperatures.

    If you don’t like Cook (2013) or Powell (2017) there is also:

    Verheggen, Bart; Strengers, Bart; Cook, John; van Dorland, Rob; Vringer, Kees; Peters, Jeroen; Visser, Hans; Meyer, Leo (19 August 2014). “Scientists’ Views about Attribution of Global Warming”. Environmental Science & Technology. American Chemical Society. 48 (16): 8963–8971. doi:10.1021/es501998e.

    W. R. L. Anderegg, “Expert Credibility in Climate Change,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Vol. 107 No. 27, 12107-12109 (21 June 2010); DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1003187107.

    P. T. Doran & M. K. Zimmerman, “Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,” Eos Transactions American Geophysical Union Vol. 90 Issue 3 (2009), 22; DOI: 10.1029/2009EO030002.

    N. Oreskes, “Beyond the Ivory Tower: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,” Science Vol. 306 no. 5702, p. 1686 (3 December 2004); DOI: 10.1126/science.1103618.

    All indicate a scientific consensus between 90-100%.

  7. A good read is Joseph Leonard Fone’s On the Shoulders of Heretics.

  8. “Richard Treadgold…..you’re full of it”

    Yeah…nah , Stephanie, you’re full of it……
    It’s a major threat to our existance.
    it’s the greatest challenge of our time.
    it has to be “addressed”.
    we have to fight/combat climate change.
    you’re a science/climate change denier.
    you’re a shill for the fossil fuel industry.
    the science is “basic”.
    it’s as “real” as gravity.
    it’s a “heat trapping” gas.
    there’s a radiative “imbalance”.
    the evidence is “overwhelming”.
    ” 97%” of scientists agree.
    every scientific institute on the planet says so.
    You’re a right wing nut.
    Yeah, it’s the same old crap we hear , year after year, from you AGW brainwashed, naive, gullible, looney pack of true believers.

  9. Sensors indicate that Dennis Horne entered a wormhole in space-time and re-emerged as Stephanie Hawking, having transitioned in time, space and gender, but not in general obnoxiousness.

  10. Richard Treadgold on April 17, 2018 at 9:26 pm said:

    Heh, heh. Yes, judged by obnoxicity alone, s/he would qualify. (You’re such a creative thinker.)

  11. Mike Jowsey on April 18, 2018 at 6:58 pm said:

    Dennis Horne
    Denise Hawn
    Denialist Hawk
    Senator Hawking
    Stuffyou Hawking
    Stephanie Hawking

    Evolution of the Avatar

  12. Mike Jowsey on April 18, 2018 at 7:25 pm said:

    Is obnoxicity a word? Such a creative wordsmith 😉

  13. Brett Keane on April 19, 2018 at 10:05 am said:

    I have lessened my advocacy of real Physics vs warmism of late. The reason is that our discussions on blogs like Tallbloke etc led me to make a prediction. That the Quiet Sun Effect would play out just like it now is doing. Shorter growing seasons, frigidity, limp ENSO, etc., are doing the arguing for us. The proof will be evident or not within two years, is my guess.
    I see the Greens’ Parliamentary CC commitee is starting soon, with full decisions for next year. We know what is likely from it, but we could still be shocked – they are nuts after all. But an election comes the following year.
    There has been no significant T rise globally for two decades. In spite of fraudulent record tampering, of which we have the orginal data. The Models are a scandalous waste of money, and IPCC knows it. Stephen Hornekings can only throw insults. Simon would not know a Significant Difference if he walked into it.
    It could get very boring hearing these crooks. But much real science continues apace, such as new ozone source discoveries at the magnetic polar flux convergences. Currently two in the north, and one south of Oz. Rewriting of ozone science was overdue, and looks imminent. Holes? Quite natural.

  14. Richard Treadgold on April 19, 2018 at 10:20 am said:

    Well, you’re just a breath of fresh air, Brett, thank you.

  15. Ian Cooper on April 19, 2018 at 11:00 am said:

    Thanks for that info re the ozone holes Brett. I always thought that we didn’t know enough about them (ozone holes) back in the 80’s for scientists to make the claims that they did then.

    Regarding early & late frosts, well out here on the Manawatu plains we haven’t had one yet, but came close last week when heavy winter-like snow settled low on the beloved Tararuas. Not that unusual as snow has been recorded there in every month of the year in my 60+ years. The unusual thing about the mountain snow for this time of the year was that it lingered for more than a day or so.

    Another thing about last week’s cold snap is that it gave us Palmerston North’s coldest April day in the past 43 years (unfortunately I don’t have daily data going beyond 1975), and the 11th of April was also the earliest recorded sub-10C maximum day by a month for the same period. Sub 10C days usually don’t happen here until into June & even July. A handful have happened in May with the previous two earliest examples occurring during the cold Mt Pinatubo affected autumn of 1992. The main reason that we haven’t had a frost yet is that it has been too wet since the start of the year.

    Now, as will rightly be pointed out, this is just weather, but it cuts both ways. This recent summer has been touted as the hottest on record by NIWA (by just 0.1 of a degree in the mean temps for Dec-Feb) and yet N.Z.’s hottest Day record set 45 years ago still stands, much to the chagrin of J.Salinger & co. I well remember the glee followed by great disappointment back in Feb 2011 when it looked like identical weather circumstances that created the 1973 record were about to repeat at Timaru only for it to come up short. Oh dear, how sad, never mind! The warmistas would have jumped on a new record and shouted it out from the roof tops as ‘evidence’ that it was all our fault.

    It was Salinger & Trevor Chinn who blamed humanity for the loss of all of the ice from N.Z. glaciers in modern times, completely ignoring how much ice melted away in the period from when the Little Ice Age ended (around 1850) through to when our CO2 input was deemed significant (around 1950). If we were to compare the ice mass loss as a percentage of the original 1850 amount and the two periods in question, i.e. 1850-1949 & 1950-2018, nature would win hands down. I can easily say that without knowing the actual figures, because nature is mostly responsible for the ice mass loss period!

  16. Gary Kerkin on April 23, 2018 at 6:03 pm said:

    Ian,

    This recent summer has been touted as the hottest on record by NIWA (by just 0.1 of a degree in the mean temps for Dec-Feb) and yet N.Z.’s hottest Day record set 45 years ago still stands, much to the chagrin of J.Salinger & co. I well remember the glee followed by great disappointment back in Feb 2011 when it looked like identical weather circumstances that created the 1973 record were about to repeat at Timaru only for it to come up short.

    And NIWA was striving to break that record again this last summer but was once again thwarted.

    I recall summers in Melbourne in the 70’s when periods of up to 10 days recorded daily temperatures between 36 and 42ºC. 1969 – 1972 was a drought for Southern Victoria. All of Melbourne was on water restrictions for over two years.

    Climate is changing, but are current events unique? Definitely not!

  17. Brett Keane on April 24, 2018 at 6:04 am said:

    Ian et al: I was at Massey PNth 2001-04, doing a BApplSc and Grad Dip 40yrs late, and the winter snow came down heavy on the saddle. Cyclical, as the locals told me. But it was part of the start of retreat from the warmists’ hoped-for hell. Having fluked it and lived a full cycle, I’ve seen it before. Similar to about 1960 we are now, roughly, but never exactly. Soon – claims of a returning ice age from the usual idiots. Sorry children, just Piers’ mini LIA!
    Joe Bastardi uses analogues to predict possible shorter growing -seasons. That, and stupidity wrecking our affordable heating, makes for a threatening situation.

    But the Simons and Hornekings of the world have that sorted – it is arctic warming causing a frozen north, still snow-covered way above previous satellite-era levels. We must abhor affordable warmth still just to please them. Okay warmistas, apres-vous…..

  18. Richard Treadgold on April 24, 2018 at 11:25 am said:

    All,

    I love this blog. Everyone who contributes knows something of the history of the matter or the matter itself I’ve never heard of. It’s a fascinating adventure, greeting my inbox of a morning! Thank you all.

  19. Andy on June 20, 2018 at 6:02 pm said:

    Germany Flops on Climate Change Goals

    Germany won’t be able to meet the goal of cutting emissions by 20 percent before 2020. But the attempt caused residential energy prices to double.

    (my emphasis)

    http://reason.com/blog/2018/06/18/germany-flops-on-climate-change-goals

    Something to ponder upon as the NZ government seeks input into its Zero Carbon Bill

    Note that they have already stated that it will hit the poorest hardest

  20. Andy on June 20, 2018 at 7:33 pm said:

    This blog post by economist Michael Reddell posits a fairly gloomy outlook for NZ under the proposed Zero Carbon Act

    https://croakingcassandra.com/2018/06/08/the-government-consults-on-slashing-productivity-growth/

    Unfortunately we seem to be encumbered with a government ( and a barely better opposition) that are running on bumper sticker slogans with hardly any hard analysis of economic impacts

  21. Andy on June 20, 2018 at 7:35 pm said:

    This comment is particularly disturbing:

    1% of current GDP is around $2.7 billion per annum. By 2050 of course we’d expect GDP to have increased (if only with inflation), but if we think of the emissions goal as reducing GDP in 2025 by up to 25% relative to the baseline, the sums are absolutely enormous, even discounted back to today’s dollars.

    https://croakingcassandra.com/2018/06/08/the-government-consults-on-slashing-productivity-growth/#comment-25836

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